CIC Data Base Inquiry
Reference No. 163
2000-2003 Honda Civic & Hybrid

R&R A-Pillar

Date of Request: December 21, 2002
Original Date Posted: August 6, 2003

Data Providers: Mitchell International, MOTOR Information Services/CCC Information Systems, ADP

Time allowance:            Mitchell                         16.6 hrs.                  

                                    Labor text note:            None

                                    Motor                           12.5

                                    Labor text note:            With all bolted parts removed

                                    ADP                            Presently not known

                                    CCC                             Same as Motor

                                    Labor text note:            Same as Motor

Inquiry (as stated by inquirer)

Suggestion

            To All:

1.      Please indicate in a “labor note” the required removal of the upper reinforcement rail to facilitate pillar installation.           

Responses:

Mitchell: January 7, 2003 Manufacturer information is oftentimes unclear as to which panels need to be removed in order to facilitate removal of inner panels.  Moreover, on-site field inspections and time studies demonstrate varied feedback as to when an overlapping panel would require complete or partial removal for access to underlying panels.  Therefore, Mitchell addresses these types of issues in our Procedure Pages in the form of the following important reminder: Labor times for inner panels, rails or reinforcements are with outer panels removed.

MOTOR: January 13, 2003 Added footnote: "Time is after upper rail is removed.", reviewed labor times and added Overlap & Sectioning Operations.

ADP: January 3, 2003 Increased the replacement time on G/N's 0183/0184 for all three vehicles by 1.5 hrs for each side. This change will be available on the Feb. 2003 CD.

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