CIC Data Base Inquiry
Reference No. 170

 

Date of Request: January 15, 2003
Original Date Posted: August 6, 2003

Subject:             labor note request

 

Make:                         GM   

Model:                          Trailblazer/Envoy/Bravada and other similar models

Year:                            02-03

Operation:                     R&R front and rear door-s (with two piece welded hinges)

 

Time allowance:            Mitchell                         Front door 5.2 hrs.

                                    Labor text note:            Includes R&I/R&R Mirror, Door Side Hinges                                                                             & Drilling Necessary Holes

                                                                        Rear door 4.5 hrs

                                    Labor text note:            None

 

                                    Motor                           Front door 4.5 hrs. 

                                    Labor text note:            None

                                                                        Rear Door 4.5 hrs

                                    Labor text note:              None

 

                                    ADP                            Presently not known

 

                                    CCC                             Same as Motor

                                    Labor text note:            Same as Motor

                                   

Inquiry (as suggested by inquirer)

The inquirer suggests after observing this operation, General Motors take the position that the upper and lower door side welded on hinges be replaced as new when replacing the front and rear doors. Inquirer suggests the data providers be specific in their labor note, reflecting the necessity to R&R the welded on hinges and not suggest an R&I operation. It is in the opinion of inquirer that removing and reinstalling (R&I) the welded hinge, the hinge incurs removal damage affecting the integrity of the hinge.

 

Suggestion

            To All: Please review operation and “labor note” for this operation. Please clearly state in labor note the necessity to replace the door hinge in conjunction with the door.

 

Responses:
Mitchell - 09/03/2004:

Mitchell currently lists a parts specific note in relation to the doors that the hinges must also be replaced in conjunction.

Motor Information System 10/8/2004 - (DR1GN02) Added footnote to upper and lower door side hinges, “Time is after door is removed. Time is for replacement as outline in manufactures collision repair manual. Replacement doors are pre-drilled for hinges and requires replacement hinges be used.”

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