CIC Data Base Inquiry
Reference No. 174

 

Date of Request: March 7, 2003
Original Date Posted: August 6, 2003

Subject:             V6 to 4 cyl difference

 

Make:                         Honda   

Model:                          Accord

Year:                            98-03

Operation:                     R&R left front lower control arm (#51365-S84-A00)

 

Time allowance:            Mitchell                         1.3

                                    Labor text note:            With Steering Knuckle Removed Deduct .6

                                                                                   

                                    Motor                           1.3

                                    Labor text note:            None

                                                                                                           

                                    ADP                            Presently not known

 

                                    CCC                             Same as Motor

                                    Labor text note:            Same as Motor

                                   

Inquiry (as stated by inquirer)

Replacing the lower control arm on the V6 model, there are additional steps that are required which leads to more time than the 4 cylinder model. 

The process involves:

¨       Loosening the engine and transmission mounts

¨       Removing the four bolts from the rear left side transmission mount (next to the control arm bolt)

¨       Elevating the engine

¨       Removing the transmission mount

These steps facilitate the removal of the anchor bolt. These steps are not required with the 4 cylinder model.

 

Suggestion

            To All: Please review this operation. 

 

Response:

 

Mitchell: As stated: "found the procedure to remove the lower control arm bolt to be equal for the 4cyl and the V6.  The transmission mounts do not require removal in either situation."

 

ADP: Manufacturer's Service Information made no mention that there are differences between the replacement of the front lower control arms on the 4cyl. opposed to the 6cyl. We took it a step further and contacted several local Honda dealerships, that confirmed the operations to replace the front lower control arm on the 6cyl. Accord are the same as the operations on the 4cyl. Accord.

Motor Information System 10/8/2004 - No service information to support different labor time for the difference in engine sizes. Contacted local dealer and was quoted a labor time of 1.5 hours to replace on a V6 Accord. MOTOR list 1.3 hours.

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