CIC Data Base Inquiry
Reference No. 182

 

Date of Request: April 17, 2003
Original Date Posted: August 6, 2003

Subject:             Inaccurate labor note

 

Make:                           Ford 

Model:                          Explorer

Year:                            02-03

Operation:                     R&R/R&I radiator and AC condensor

 

Time allowance:            Mitchell                        

                                    Radiator                       1.1 hrs.

                                    Labor text note:            None

                                    AC condenser                     1.1 hrs.

                                    Labor text note:            #w/radiator removed deduct .5                                                                                                                                                         

                                    Motor                          

                                    Radiator                       2.4 hrs.

                                    Labor text note:            Includes R&I/R&R AC condenser and fan shroud

                                    AC condenser                     2.4 hrs                                                                                                 Labor text note:            Includes R&I/R&R radiator and fan shroud

 

                                    ADP                            Presently not known (designation not known)

 

                                    CCC                             Same as Motor

                                    Labor text note:            Same as Motor

                                   

Inquiry (as stated by inquirer)

            Motor has correctly identified the unusual sequence for the removal of the radiator; the             AC condenser must be removed to access the radiator

 

Suggestion:

Mitchell, please review this operation.

Response:

Mitchell: Mitchell labor allowance for the radiator is 2.4hrs.  The procedure calls for detaching the radiator from the condenser (held together by four bolts).  The condenser remains in the vehicle as stated in the service procedure.  The condenser allowance is 1.1hrs.  Access to the condenser is from the front (bumper, grille).  Likewise, unbolted from the radiator which remains in the vehicle as stated in the service procedure.

 

MOTOR: 04/01/05 -

MOTOR updated the labor time on the radiator to 1.8 hours which includes R&I/R&R upper and lower shrouds. The labor time on the AC condenser includes R&I/R&R upper and lower shrouds.

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