Subject: Labor note requirement

Make: Toyota

Model: Sienna Van

Year: 99-03

Operation: R&R Front Apron, right (#53711-08011

Time allowance: Mitchell 4.5 hrs

Labor text note: None

Motor 4.5 hrs

Labor text note: After bumper, headlamp, fender and all necessary bolted on parts are removed.

ADP Presently not known

CCC Same as Motor

Labor text note: Same as Motor

Inquiry (as stated by inquirer)

The replacement process requires the unplugging of the wire harness; the harness travels through a hole in the apron panel. To access the wire harness plug the dash assembly must be removed; the plug is located in an inaccessible area. The Toyota dealer has researched this operation and finds this is the method to remove the harness

Suggestion:

¨ Motor: Please amend your labor note.

¨ Mitchell: Please add a labor note and include this operation.

¨ ADP: Please review the labor report for this operation and update as needed.

Response:
Mitchell: 7/15/03 - The labor operation in question does not include R&I/R&R of the wiring harness. Procedure 8, Apron Panel and/or Front Rail R&R specifies wiring and/or wiring harness as a not included operation.

ADP:

ADP time does not include time to remove the wiring harness. This exclusion of labor is found on page 56 and page 45 of the database reference manual. Most manufacturers provide very limited information in regards to what is required to remove these harnesses; therefore this has put us in a position where we do not want to give incorrect time for this operation. The shop must add this time as a manual entry in order for it to be available on the estimate. Below I have attached a copy of the labor exclusions list for your review.

Motor Information System 10/8/2004 (ARM8511) MOTOR’s GTE pages (pG16) does not include electrical wiring for the R&R of a welded front apron panel..

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