CIC Data Base Inquiry
Reference No. 205

 

Subject:             Insufficient time allowance

                                   

Make:                         MB

Model:                          ML430

Year:                            98-02

Operation:                     R&R exhaust system, right side  

                                   

Time allowance:            Mitchell                        1.9 hrs             

                                    Labor text note:           R&R both 3.2 hrs

                                                                       

                                    Motor                           1.1 plus .7

Labor text note:           None

                                               

                                    ADP                            Presently not known

 

                                    CCC                            

                                    Labor text note:          

                                   

Date of Inquiry:          January 24, 2004

 

Inquiry (as stated by inquirer)

We just took this vehicle for exhaust replacement from the right converter back to tail pipe and the book allowed 1.4 hours. We had to first drop the transmission x member and also take off the Right front fender skirt to access the bolts on the manifold. Also the factory exhaust that was on this was a one piece welded on pipe so we also had to cut the exhaust in pieces to get it out. The new exhaust comes in sections and it is designed a little different so there is some playing around to get it into tight areas. But we definitely need to drop the transmission x member to be able to get the Right converter and pipe into the vehicle. Also the crash book (motors) shows the pipe & converter and also the muffler but not in sections like the dealership had sent it to us. This is not a 1.4 hr job.

 

Suggestion to all data providers:

Please review this operation

 

 

Response:

Mitchell - 3/31/04:
Review of the OEM service procedures confirms the inquiry.  Evaluation of the required tasks results in the following update labor allowances:
  • R&R Exhaust System Complete 5.6hrs
  • R&R Front Exhaust Pipe R/L 3.5hrs (R&R Both 5.0hrs)

ADP - 4/22/04: We made a call to the manufacturer who agreed that the transmission crossmember and the fender skirt need to be removed to gain access in order to reach bolts required for exhaust system removal. We will add the appropriate labor to match these recommended procedures.

 

MOTOR: 04/01/05 -

MOTOR reviewed and adjusted the labor to R&R exhaust system complete, rearward of manifold to 5.4 hours and updated the labor time on the front converter & pipe to 3.4 hours.

 


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