Insurance Relations Committee
Issue Details from surveys or attendee input
Insurance Control / Insurance Relations INEXPERIENCED ADJUSTERS TRYING TO DICTATE REPAIR COST AND PROCESSES THROUGH COMPANY POLICY
  Importance of initial appraisal to repair process
  does a HVAC, electrician, or computer repair guy have to show his invoices to his customer
  THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS VS INSURANCE CO OPINION OF OUR COST OF DOING BUSINESS
  COLLISION REPAIR SHOPS GETTING CONTROL OF OUR INDUSTRY INSTEAD OF INS COMPANIES
  NATIONWIDE TO PUT CAMERAS IN SHOPS FOR CONSUMER TO VIEW. GIVE ME A BEAK. WHO RUNS THE BUS.
  DRP PROGRAMS. WE HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED. IT'S ONLY A MATTE OF TIME AND THEY WILL OWN YOU TOO
  FEES.  THE COMPANIES ARE TELLING US WHAT THEY ARE PAYING AND NOT ASKING WHAT WE CHARGE
  WE ARE BASTARDIZED BY THE INDEPENDENT DISPATCH CENTERS I.E CLAIMSFORCE ETC.
  Regional aberrations in what is covered by insurance companies during repair
  Insurance Companies not following OEM repair requirements
Insurance control (steering, suppressing required operations, setting rates
Attempts to mandate service rates by geographic markets. 
CCC, ADP and Mitchell are insurance controlled monopolies.  Fair competition is needed.
INSURANCE OWNED SHOPS / PROGRESSIVE COINISIER 
INSURANCE COMPANIES NOT REQUIRING ONE DATABASE SYSTEM (ADP, CCC,MITCHELL.)
Insurance control of our business - in all ways
interference from ins. companies, ie; use this vendor, wait for reinspect, short paid supp
Insurance control using DRP's as a means of denying proper payments. 
Insurance control using unethical tactics by appraisers afraid of loosing their job. 
Becoming truly independent from insurance control
Insurance control over parts use and methodology of repair
insurance company control /low rates
ins co are now running our businesses and industry
The removal of all outside influence on collision repairs, the main one being insurance.
INSURERS SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE REPAIR PROCESS
Remove all outside influence forced upon collision repairers, the main one insurance co.
Stop other industries from interfering with the operation of the collision industry
MONARCHY IN SOME INS CO MANAGEMENT POLICIES REGIONALLY
INDUSTRY LIMITS ON GROSS PROFIT MARGINS ON LKQ PARTS, NO FREE MARKET
Insurance influence in the collision industry
INS. COMPANIES SETTING RATES
Insurance ability to control labor rates
INSURER "CONTROL" OF REPAIR PROCESS
Insurer dictatorship of the repair. Not knowing/caring of the impact on shops .
One sided cost containment. (No Real Partnerships)
INDEPENDENT APPRAISERS FAILURE TO RESPOND TO SUPPLEMENTS
INSURANCE INDUSTRY ASSUMES WE WILL GIVE  ALL COMPANIES SAME RATE
Cameras monitoring work in our shops
Insurers requiring specific vendors
rate of reimbursement
Non payment of Ins cos' for required items in the restoration of collision loss.
INSURERS DICTATING REPAIR PROCEDURES
INSURERS NOT PAYING FOR REQUIRED OPERATIONS
INS.CO'S NOT ALLOWING ADDIT OPS FROM P-PAGES
WAITING TOO LONG FOR INS SUPPLEMENTS
Use of photographs to establish repair times. Desk Auditing.
Authorization of insurance personnel to transfer data to non-DRP facilities
Short pay of estimates
consistent insurer policies within regions
insurer changes estimating profile without informing repairer
Labor rates / Surveys LABOR RATES AND P&M ARE IN THE CELLAR AND ALWAYS WILL BE.
Funny rates
STATE BY STATE LABOR RATE SURVEY
State Farms new program will make impossible to raise your labor rate.  (Must be addressed)
When you do a survey make all of the input available to the press so people know about it.
Insurance companies not observing legalities of capping materials & labor rates.
price your work in dollars instead of hours!
Attempts to mandate service rates by geographic markets. 
Labor rates need to be raised in order to attract career minded employees.
Labor rate surveys
California labor rate surveys  level Playing field
SUPPRESSION OF LABOR RATES 
Prevailing rate surveys
FAIR AND EQUITABLE LABOR RATE FORMULAS AND INDUSTRY SURVEY
PROFITABLE LABOR RATE   ( SOUTH FLORIDA)
LABOR RATES  WITH   A COLA ADJUSTMENT YEARLY
SURVEY OF RATES DONE BY INSURER'S
labor rate Surveys-CA
Methodology used to determine prevailing rates.
LABOR RATES
STAGNANT /LOWERING LABOR RATES
RAISING THE LABOR RATES AND P&M RATES
INADEQUATE  LABOR RATE 
SHRINKING LABOR TIMES IN CRASH MANUALS
get all states to mandate a labor rate survey like the new one from Rhode island
Independent source to approve information provider labor time changes before releasing
Labor rates with DRP'S
The use of labor time guides being used as a final authority by ..(Conn. necxt line).
Labor rates.
Compression of labor rates from insurance companies.
Not allowing DRP rates effect local prevailing rates of a non DRP shops.
Non partisan or government labor rate surveys, not insurance company surveys.
SUPPRESSED LABOR RATES; INSURERS NOT PAYING THE CURRENT MARKET FAIR PRICE
CIC cannot address the issue of labor rates
Lower labor values
LABOR RATES NOT REALISTIC
Low labor rates
LABOR RATE STUDY OF WHAT A REASONABLE RATE SHOULD BE
The need for a higher hour rates, comparison to mechanic labor rates
inflation rate increases over compensation increases
SUPPRESSED LABOR RATES
NON- INDUSTRY PROCEDURES FORCING LESSER LABOR RATES, NO COMPENSATION FOR EQUIPMENT,FR MACH
LABOR TIMES GOING DOWN FOR NO REASON IN ESTIMATION SYSTEMS.
LABOR RATES
INSURES REDUCING  LABOR RATES 
get rid of flat rate
Labor rates being lowered by repairers to keep DRP programs
Insurance company's controlling the direction of rate increases and DRP programs
Erosion of labor rates and markups
compensation to our Techs
Paint times, processes, allowances, caps Stop blending repaired panels.
Refinish within panel time deductions on repaired panels 
Insurance companies not observing legalities of capping materials & labor rates.
insurance material capping
paint capping
Feather, Fill, Block, of repaired panels.
Blend within panel.
Blending times totally inadequate
Blend within panel
material caps should not be allowed
a calculation to compensate for body materials
Diminished refinishing times
insurance capping paint and materials for non DRP shops
material caps and blend within panel studies
Feather, prime and block included in estimating system software and paid by Ins Co's
Blending or Blend within Panel 
insurance companies reducing paint times on repaired panels and not paying prime & block
Blend within panel repairs
Caps on P&M
Insurance carriers cutting/reducing refinish labor. Partial paint times. 
BLEND WITHIN A PANEL (AGAIN)
Caps  Paint, Materials
PAINT CAPS
Keep the gap issue going hopeful we will start getting paid for body materials
Paint issues, Blend in panel, No repair panel time, No blending for solid colors.
Tint and blend, block and fill, de-nib and polish
PAINT CAPS
BLOCK FILL PRIME
Paint & material costs /reimbursement  RAISING THE LABOR RATES AND P&M RATES
low compensation for paint and materials 
the quality of OE replacement parts
paint price increases how to pass on to ins. cos.
Failure to properly pay P&M.
WHERE IS THERE CRITERIA SAYING WHAT IS INCLUDED IN PAINT MATERIALS AND BODY MATERIALS
Parts and material procurement
nearly 3 years with only $1increase in paint 
Materials/petroleum costs increase but Ins. chooses not  to address this issue. 
INADEQUATE  MATERIAL ALLOWANCES
FAILURE OF INS CO TO KEEP UP WITH THE RISING COSTS OF P&M
Paint and Material - True invoicing needed instead of multiplier per hr...
Material cost rise faster than we can get compensated for
PAINT SUPPLIERS TO HAVE DATA BASE THAT WOULD COST ANALYZE BUY VEHICLE
Increased material costs
Material costs
Re keying / Data transfer sharing system info. data re-entry is a killer
Re-Keying Estimates
re key  of estimates
Increased data entry processes
All total loss vehicles are salvage and belong in the junk yard
Unwillingness by Insurance Industry to let us download their staff adjustor estimates 
Forced use of aftermarket parts INSURANCE CO.'S DICTATING NON-OEM PARTS ON VEHICLES STILL UNDER FACTORY WARRANTY
USE OF AFTERMARKET PARTS
OEM parts  vs  AFTERMARKET  fitting, customer, insurance co., warranty.......
Desk reviews / audits 3rd party desk reviews done by poorly trained personnel looking at photos
Timely response to sups, (Standards)